Not sure if I need to be adding breakfast or something to the mix because I don't eat in the AM. Have tried anywhere between 2-4 tablets of each on an empty stomach first thing in the morning and don't feel much, maybe a 5-10% boost from normal. I personally bought rush & smooth because I love the preworkout and trust Derek's formulations but I don't feel much of anything from either one alone. I don't know if this is of any help to anyone, but I have never taken nootropics but just started to buy a few to get into the game of it for studying / working out. The way this stuff hits is very different from the stims in something like Mode, I can handle 2 scoops of mode no problem, I feel like my brain would have exploded on more than 3 caps of this stuff lol. DEFINITELY start with 1-2 MAX if you're not a stim junkie to test your tolerance cause this stuff for sure is legit. The only problem is it just became a bit too overwhelming for me after the 4 hour mark, my whole body is drained from the ordeal but I've returned to baseline now and I'm feeling alright. I felt like my brain was firing laser beams out of my eyes for 9 hours straight while being blasted with a sustained focused sense of well being. Went and had my usual breakfast and then did cardio, about 3 hours from the first capsule I decided to take 1 more for a total dose of 2 for the day and oh my god. I have a chronic kratom addiction (daily kratom 3-5 times a day for 10+ years now) so I usually take it first thing upon waking but waited to test 1 capsule of rush by itself, began to feel something extremely quickly. Wasn't sure what to expect as I had my expectations for anything ridiculous tapered. I trust Derek's information so I decided to order a bottle of Rush for his last sale of it.
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